“tracking” is not a “magic solution”, warns Mounir Mahjoubi

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Guest of Patrick Cohen on Europe 1, the former Secretary of State for Digital, Mounir Mahjoubi, returned to the application of “tracking” that the government wishes to launch, “Stop Covid” and which, according to him, “the most protective solution “of individual freedoms. “There is no magic solution” on the digital level, he nevertheless wishes to emphasize.


What is digital tracing? How will it be implemented in France? What risk for individual freedoms? So many questions that arise when the government has announced its desire to develop the Stop Covid application, intended to alert you if one of your relatives has contracted the coronavirus. One of the many “tracking” methods that the former secretary of state for digital, Mounir Mahjoubi, looked into in a parliamentary note.

Guest of Patrick Cohen on Europe 1, he returns to these different tracks of “digital tracing” of the population. And the deputy from Paris wishes to insist on one point: “there is no magic solution”. “The solutions offered by digital only add to the much more physical and material conditions that will be a treatment, means in hospitals, masks, respect for the rules of distancing. ”

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“Something usual in epidemics”

Regarding the application of the government, Mounir Mahjoubi wants to be reassuring: “Contact tracking is something that is already done in the context of epidemics but which is done by hand with a notepad and a pencil” , he indicates, explaining that when France was still in stage 1 and 2, in each case, a meticulous and very precise interview of the patient was carried out to know who he had attended during the last fifteen days. “This is what we call” tracking “contact. This is something that is usual in epidemics which makes it possible to warn all people who may have been infected so that they too can stay in their fortnight at home. and listen to their bodies as they approach their first symptoms, “he continues.

According to him, the benefits of a digital version of this tedious work are numerous. It allows “to bring the completeness that digital will allow by recording for you on your phone all the contacts you have had with other people for fifteen days and erase them as you go. And the day you are tested positive you ask the application to notify all the people you met during this time, “details the deputy.

The application “cannot record individual information”

There is therefore no need to worry about a potential threat to our individual freedoms, France having “made the choice of the most protective solution” of these freedoms, says Mounir Mahjoubi. Indeed, “this application cannot record individual information, does not centralize it in a server in the hand of a government or the police authorities. It thus makes it possible to ensure by its architecture that it cannot be used only for one purpose: to prevent potentially contaminated people, “insists the MEP.

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He explains: “My phone records the interactions it has with the other and if I am positive, and by the declaration of a doctor or specialist, we will use what is called a temporary identifier of my phone. Otherwise says, it’s not my first and last name that will be sent to a server but a number, a barcode. It will therefore be sent to a central server which will send it to all applications in France by telling them : ‘if you have saved this little barcode in your local base, it means that the person who owns this phone has potentially been contaminated “.

“A unique device” whose effectiveness remains to be proven

Finally, as for the effectiveness of such an application, the member prefers “to remain humble”, kicking in touch with the novelty of such a device: “The best researchers in the matter in Europe and in the world are in the process to work on these subjects. The reality is that this crisis is unique and the solutions are unique. ”

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Asked about the example of Singapore which set up a similar application but which has only been downloaded by 20% of the population, Mounir Mahjoubi wishes to qualify: It only comes in addition to the “contact tracking” carried out by doctor interview. That is to say, even if only 25% of the population would use the application, the remaining 75%, if they test positive, will be asked all the questions and they will do it by hand with the doctor “, he concludes.

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