“Tension is anti-politics”


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Madrid, Oct 25 (EFE) .- The president of the Senate, Pilar Llop (PSOE), believes that politicians should focus more on solving the problems of citizens, especially in such a critical social situation, and to achieve this, she is betting without hesitation for dialogue and abhors polarization: “The tension is antipolitical,” he warns.

In an interview with EFE, Llop defends the work of the institution he presides, both for its “extraordinary value” as an instrument capable of legislatively managing territorial needs, and for its role of controlling the Government, although he admits that there are aspects of its operation to be reformed.

A judge specializing in gender violence and an autonomous senator elected by the Madrid Assembly, she emphasizes the need to preserve “now more than ever” democracy with “strong institutions”, because although the institutional system works “sometimes those of us who do not function are politicians “, recognize.


Along these lines, Pilar Llop interprets Vox’s frustrated motion of censure held this week in Congress as proof of the distance that exists between what citizens need and what politicians do.

“People do not understand that politicians are not where we need to be, which is to resolve this situation of health crisis, social and economic crisis that we are facing, and that we are debating issues that are actually sterile,” he laments in the interview.

So much so that, he continues, “it is as if there were two parallel realities, as if politicians lived in a different world, absorbed in confrontation”, so that they prefer confrontation rather than seeking solutions to the problems of the citizens.


A confrontation that has already reached the Senate with episodes of bitter confrontations, the last last Tuesday in a clash with very thick words between a PP senator and the Minister of Equality, Irene Montero.

“You can use the word but you cannot abuse the words,” remarks the president of the Upper House, who in that plenary had to ask the PP senator Adelaida Pedrosa to stick to the question when she asked Minister Montero if she was “a woman submissive to an alpha male”, in reference to the second vice president of the Government, Pablo Iglesias.

Although he considers that the right to freedom of expression of parliamentarians must be preserved, he warns that “hate speech will not be admitted on my part, nor will lack of respect or personal allusions”.

And in her capacity as a former delegate of the Government for Gender Violence, she notes that machismo “is a very serious issue” and an issue that “should never be minimized”; It also recalls that precisely the Courts have launched an innovative Equality Plan.

Llop insists that the parliamentary task must be about “the general interest and rejects outright the gratuitous and forced controversy in parliamentary debates:” For me the tension is antipolitical. It is that social acid that erodes institutions, that erodes coexistence and the ability to reach agreements. “

This same week, the Senate Board agreed to freeze the remuneration of senators in the budgets for 2021, something that justifies to “set an example” in the face of the economic crisis derived from the pandemic, the loss of jobs and health problems suffered by the citizens.

Congress, which in principle had not foreseen the freeze for the deputies, “rectified in time,” he explains, confirming that in this situation the freeze was “the only possibility” of response.


Pilar Llop considers that it is time to “revitalize” the “great constitutional pact” thanks to which “we can live in a consolidated democracy” and calls for “a serene, constructive debate that is at the level of what the citizens want from us, which is talking about your problems. “

Consensus is, therefore, the only way forward since, he adds, “when the disagreements are very great, the only way that remains is dialogue, but a constructive dialogue, a dialogue that demonstrates the true value of politics” .

For this reason, and without wanting to venture much more about the scope of the rupture between PP and Vox that the president of the PP, Pablo Casado, certified in the motion of censure, Pilar Llop says that for her “any gesture” that can contribute to achieve great deals “is welcome”.


One of these pending pacts is that of the renewal of the General Council of the Judicial Power (CGPJ) and in this sense, it assures that “it does not contemplate another possibility” that is not that of a political agreement for it, and has appealed to the groups to achieve it “because in the end what we are seeing is an erosion of the institution.”

But he also warns against criticism of the proposal of PSOE and United We Can to reduce the majority necessary to elect 12 of its members, now paralyzed waiting for a pact with the PP, because, he emphasizes, it is “very unfair” to say that Justice is “highly politicized”, when it is not.

She, who has exercised the jurisdictional function, defends the appointment by Parliament of the members of the CGPJ because the Constitution establishes that Justice “emanates from the people” and rejects that they be appointed directly by the judges themselves.

Because the Council, he believes, “would become a corporate body and would only look out for the interests of the judicial career.”


Looking at the operation of the Chamber that he presides, Llop affirms that he does not renounce this “great reform” of the Senate pending that would entail a modification of the Constitution, but he recognizes that now there is no “consensus” that such a change would require.

In the meantime, he proposes to address a reform of the Regulation, in which he is already working – without deadlines but with the idea that is consumed before the end of the legislature – that grants greater transparency, agility and citizen participation to parliamentary life.

One of his ideas is to leave for the committees some legislative debates that are now taking place in plenary session and that are limited to repeating the discussion of amendments already dealt with in committee, so that only the global debate on the committee is reserved for the plenary session. initiative.

It is also in favor of making better use of the General Commission of Autonomous Communities, and emphasizes that it is present in the hemicycle of senators appointed by the regional parliaments, as is the case, endows the institution with an “extraordinary territorial wealth”.

And this because they can participate “directly” in the preparation of laws at the national level, with the capacity even to veto the bills of Congress that the Senate treats as a second reading Chamber.

In short, Pilar Llop wants the Upper House to serve to “visualize those territorial interests in a constructive way and to launch that message that Spain is united by the autonomous communities, not divided by the autonomous communities.”

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