Hazel Brugger & Thomas Spitzer im Interview
Can a dusty concept like marriage be cool? If you do it right, yes, say Hazel Brugger and Thomas Spitzer. The comedian and the gag writer of “heute-show” have been a couple for six years, got married last year and are expecting a child together. So far, so normal. That the two of them talk about all of this in their podcast “Just Married” publicly and without a filter is perhaps less normal, but it is quite entertaining.
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The comedy duo / couple / podcast tandem also spoke to GQ about their relationship – about what got on your nerves about the other during the lockdown, what they have learned to love about the other and what other couples can learn from them . Above all, we wanted to know how we can all, after almost a year and a half, make 2021 a good year for love.
GQ: Ms. Brugger, Mr. Spitzer, how did you experience the Corona years and especially the lockdown – from a couple’s perspective?
Hazel Brugger: We spent even more time together than we already did. So not 22 hours a day, but 23.5. It is of course difficult to assess this time across the board, but I put it this way: If you have cut each other’s hair and throw all professional plans completely over the heap several times, it welds together.
Thomas Spitzer: We spent an incredible amount of time together. Probably more than you should. At some point our thoughts synchronized. We end the sentences from each other or have the same associations and catchy tunes. It’s definitely not healthy, but it just had to be … And I think the fact that we can still get along shows how well we go together!
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Hazel Brugger: “Because of the wedding we are ‘only married’ at first – what you do with being married is up to you”
You are now doing a very personal podcast on relationships and your marriage. “Just married” sounds a bit like a program by Dieter Nuhr – how did the title come about? And do you always agree on how much you reveal about your own relationship?
Thomas Spitzer: The title is a reference to the English “just married”. We noticed that there are hardly any positive connotations in German that have anything to do with marriage. “Until death do you part” or something like that sounds very negative. In a way, it was also about reclaiming the word “just”. I can answer the second question with a “yes”. A couple podcast wouldn’t work any other way.
Hazel Brugger: Part of the plan was, of course, to normalize and de-nourish the word “only” for German usage (laughs). We thought it was great to translate the English “just married” in such a way that it takes some of the pressure off the marriage. After all, because of the wedding we are really “only married” at first – what you do with this marriage is up to you.
It is the same with what we want to reveal about the relationship – that is also up to each of us. But we communicate a lot and have never been on the same wavelength when it comes to us as a couple in public.
Did you discover any traits in the other during the lockdown that are really annoying to you?
Hazel Brugger: Thomas has this strange habit of often carrying all the dishes from the dining table to the dishwasher, but then not putting them in there directly, but distributing them on the worktop in as space-consuming as possible.
Thomas Spitzer: Phew, I hope she doesn’t part with me now (laughs).
Hazel Brugger: I think that’s one of those little things that would take more effort to address than to briefly fix yourself. Anything else would really drive you crazy.
Mr. Spitzer, the opportunity to return the coach: What did you discover?
Thomas Spitzer: Hazel likes to talk a lot – and sometimes when we’re watching a movie or I’m listening to music and a great job comes up. That can be annoying sometimes.
Hazel Brugger: I’m not saying anything about that now. I don’t want to ruin this exciting answer from Thomas.
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Ok, then we’ll be conciliatory again: What did you learn to love about your partner in lockdown? Or maybe learned to love all over again?
Hazel Brugger: I was really impressed by how quickly, spontaneously and clear-headed Thomas reacted to the stones that were repeatedly put in our way professionally. With him, this mental river rafting tour felt almost like a cruise. Only that the food was better than on a cruise because I cooked!
Thomas Spitzer: Yes, Hazel actually cooked for me more often than usual. That was awesome!
Hazel Brugger: “Take all problems seriously, but don’t see everything that is serious as a problem”
In an RND interview you said that you have “been together for six years [sind] and without any major problems ”. So you would probably get some things right. What are you doing right? And – even if relationships are very different from couple to couple – what could other couples learn from you?
Thomas Spitzer: On the one hand we talk a lot with each other and on the other hand we don’t talk badly about each other. We are one hundred percent honest – even if it hurts. We always think of the other. And we are both very adventurous and always want to develop ourselves further – together and alone.
Hazel Brugger: I wouldn’t say we’re doing so much right. We try to be empathetic with each other and at least I keep the big picture in mind when I have small arguments. That will help. In general, I can say as a tip: Take all problems seriously, but don’t see everything that is serious as a problem.
Do you have a suggestion for making 2021 a great year for love and partnership?
Hazel Brugger: Of course, I have to say quite unselfishly: If everyone hears “Just married”, 2021 will automatically be a great year for love and partnership.
Thomas Spitzer: Yes, listen to our podcast!
Finally, our 5-minute challenge: If you take five minutes every day this year to make your life and / or the life of others better, what will you do?
Hazel Brugger: That sounds trite and like what any millennial would say, but: Meditating is really useful, even if it’s only five minutes a day. I use the “Heaspace” app for this, which has been left unopened on my mobile phone for far too long.
Thomas Spitzer: Change diapers? I think we all benefit from that.
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And finally, the couple version of the 5-minute challenge: If you take five minutes every day this year to make your partner’s life more beautiful, what will you do?
Hazel Brugger: Holding yourself for five minutes every day or lying next to each other and listening to the other – I imagine that like time well spent.
Thomas Spitzer: Change more diapers.
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